Why is the stock market so depressed?

Why is the market so depressed? That may sound like a funny question, because more than a few observers want us to believe that stock investors are becoming euphoric after 5 years of ongoing bull market. But is that so? Where are the signs of retail investors becoming euphoric? Or is it conjecture based on the fact that stock markets are at record highs once again, and hence investors are “supposed” be euphoric right now?

I couldn’t escape seeing some of the S&P 500 forecasts for 2015 and was surprised at how subdued they are. Market strategists at Goldman Sachs, Barclays and Credit Suisse are expecting S&P to end the year at 2100. Deutsche bank calls for 2150. Citibank and BoA are more “optimistic” calling for S&P 2200 by the end of 2015. But hey, the S&P 500 was already close to 2100 in the final week of 2014. So, all these major banks are basically calling for stocks to be mostly sideways and barely end the year in the green. It is very rare for these major banks to call for a down year in stocks, so when they predict a flat year it is about as pessimistic as they ever get.

How about retail investors? On social networks I still see a good deal of disbelief, cynicism and even sarcasm about the ongoing bull market. But maybe that’s just my own biased judgment, so I always try to look for more objective methods to gauge investor sentiment. Classic investor sentiment surveys are unreliable for reasons I explored here. I like to play with google search trends and was intrigued by this finding (click image to enlarge):

(Source: http://tinyurl.com/ke5h8t9)

If the average investor is becoming euphoric, then why is an overly bearish site like Zerohedge attracting more and more readers, to the point where it is almost overtaking Marketwatch? If the average investors is becoming euphoric, then why is Seeking Alpha, a site with a generally bullish slant, seeing a accelerating decline in interest? It’s hard to envision how more and more overoptimistic and overextended bullish investors would suddenly want to read the apocalyptic perma-bearish stuff that zerohedge cranks out on a daily basis. Notice how zerohedge previously had peaks of interest in November 2011 and June 2012, right when stocks were at important correction lows just before embarking on major rallies.

And then I also noticed articles like this: 11 Economic Disaster Predictions From Experts Around The World For 2015. It looks like you have plenty of company if you are pessimistic for 2015.

Bottom line: the current google trend readings are more consistent with a pessimistic/depressed mood in the market, and so are the bank’s subdued forecasts for 2015, and fear/depression views still sell like hot pancakes.. Hence the title of this blog post: why is the stock market so depressed?
Possible answer: because the media has drilled us with the consensus view that end of QE and the Fed raising interest rates in 2015 will knock down the stock market.
Maybe so, but then we better also ponder: when was the last time that a consensus bandwagon offered an easy ride to investment profits?

To end today’s post I have some updated charts. Here is the current setup in S&P 500 (click image to enlarge):


The market is starting the new year with a pullback. Moves on the first and last days of a year are generally rather meaningless. This pullback is probably testament to a bearish mood, with some investors having waited to take profits for tax reasons. We remain in a lunar red period until later this week and technically my Earl indicator is pulling back with the slower Earl2 being on neutral. We could easily retest the 2000 level and if the S&P drops even lower then more bearish scenarios will come into play. Until then this is just a slow start to the year.

Here is the LT wave chart for January (click image to enlarge):

LT wave

The LT wave did very well in December. The overall moves matched the expected pattern quite closely. For January the projected pattern calls for weakness until the 9th followed by a stronger period until the 23rd. This stronger period has a quick dip in the middle, around 16th-17th. The 17th is Saturday, so it may carry over into a weak opening on Monday 19th, from which market “should” recover. Last week of January is again weaker, but not overly negative.

I have also updated my Dow versus 1920s comparison chart (click image to enlarge):


The Dow 32000 scenario continues to stay in the race. Since my most recent update the correlation with the 1920s has increased even further. If the scenario is to remain on track, a big “IF”, then the Dow should now climb above 20000 and then sputter for the rest of the year. The Fed would then raise rates in an attempt to stop a developing stock mania, and if that works as well as it did in the 1920s then it will have the opposite effect and push stocks up into a final blow-off peak. Instead of putting the blame with their own failed policies, they will conveniently point to algos and speculators as the causes of the mania and crash. But, that’s premature. Let’s first see if, when and how the market deviates from this scenario. It is going to be interesting no matter how it pans out.

Good luck,

By Dan

Author of LunaticTrader and Reversal Levels method. Stock market forecasts based on proprietary indicators, seasonal patterns and moon cycles.


  1. It’s the way I feel it. Some ‘smart’ guys claim that we have had epuhoria in 2014, but I didn’t see it anywhere. And if I meet a bullish trader online, he is very shy, as if ashamed to be bullish and stating that although he is bullish, he grows more and more bearish as the market rises…so much for ‘investors nad traders’ euphoria.
    DJIA over 30k wouldn’t surprise me.

    1. Thanks Despe. I still remember how online investing forums looked like in 1999-2002. Even remotely hinting at a possible downturn in certain stocks or the market as a whole would get booo’d you out of the place with “what are you smoking” comments. Now you get rounds of applause for posting a bearish outlook.
      It can take many years of rising prices before mood turns. Most investors didn’t really get enthusiastic (and then euphoric) about gold until 2009-2011. more than 8 years after the bull market started.

      1. Wow. Back in 1999 I found a stock market journal on a bench, waiting for a train at a railway station. Had a look at the charts and felt : ‘this is what I want to do’. But I started trading only in 2003.

  2. O Danny boy…..what r u smoking down under?…..dow 32000…..u r insane!

    watch how 2015 turns the stock markets blood red!!

    1. Hi Bruce,

      Time will tell. It is not my fault that the Dow keeps following the 1920s scenario like a shadow.
      I first posted about this scenario 18 months ago: https://lunatictrader.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/what-parabolic-peak/ and will keep updating the comparison chart as long as it stays relevant.
      I always look at more than one scenario. Some scenarios can be discarded sooner or later, other scenarios see their odds gain as they unfold. This Dow 32000 scenario stays on track, which is also surprising to me.


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